What team would be interested in trading for Andrew Wiggins ?

I’m trying to figure out how a KD to the Warriors trade would work and since Wiggins can’t be on the Nets with Simmons and I dont think Brooklyn would trade Simmons since his value is so low right now.

This is how my trade looks so far:

Golden State gets : Kevin Durant

Nets get : Jordan Poole , Moody and/or Wiseman, ~~2025~~, 2027 and 2029 picks from GS + Wiggins value.

What team would give up a good player/s + a pick to get Wiggins who only has one year left on his deal ?

Portland makes sense basketball wise but they’d have to give up a lot of their depth.

Indiana can do it if they give up Heild + pick but it doesn’t make much sense for them.

Sacramento is another one but idk how much of an upgrade Wiggins is over Barnes so it might not be worth it.

Other teams I thought about were the Clippers since they love wings and have a lot of tradeable contracts and Philly if they think Wiggins is better than Harris but I dont think those would happen


Rank These KD Trade Packages


OG Anunoby, Gary Trent Jr, four unprotected 1sts and three pick swaps


Andrew Wiggins, Jordan Poole, Jonathan Kuminga, two unprotected 1sts and four pick swaps



Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Dario Saric, four unprotected 1sts and three swaps , 2028)


Brandon Ingram, Devonte Graham, Garrett Temple, and three unprotected 1sts


Some quotes from ESPN this morning regarding the Nets and Kevin Durant:

– “I don’t think they have any traction on a KD trade right now. It’s not impossible, but it’s definitely dipped.” – Brian Windhorst on the Suns chances of getting Durant after matching for Ayton.

– “That offer hasn’t moved the needle at all for the Nets, it doesn’t seem to be of much interest to them. They think they should get much much much more for Kevin Durant.” – Zach Lowe

– “We may just be stuck in a KD vortex of stagnation for a while.” – Zach Lowe

– “Right now the hope, and that’s all it is for Brooklyn, is that if they don’t get back what they like, Kevin will say alright I’ll start the season with you guys and see what happens.” – Nick Friedell

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NBA/ABA/WNBA All-Time Rosters

I wanted to share a big project of mine that I finished this off-season. I’ve created all-time rosters for every NBA, ABA, and WNBA team along with overall ratings for every player in each league’s history. Players were rated 1-100 using a formula that incorporates career Win Shares, VORP, BPM, MP/G and GP. They were then assigned to the team they accumulated the most win shares with. Players were assigned the position they played the most games at . The NBA rosters are 15-deep at each position, so you can basically divide each franchise up into A, B, and C teams. The ABA teams feature a lot less players, and the WNBA teams aren’t as well-defined by positions, so I created a 15-player roster on the right side that balances the amount of guards and forwards/centers. I hope you all enjoy looking at this as much as I have!


My tier list of every starting center entering the 2022-2023 season


This is going into next season so I’m thinking of regression and progression.

I got my starting centers from ESPN depth chart but I took some liberties for certain ones.

I’m not factoring in potential or contract value so your team’s favorite young player might not be ranked high but that does not mean I don’t like their potential or think they shouldn’t start.

I’m factoring in fit but not that much I’m also factoring in how well they would fit on any team not just a team designed for them to be good at

I value the jobs of a center more than the pluses. Shooting, playmaking are great but not as valuable as interior defense, rebounding and setting screens when it comes to the role of a center. That being said if a center is so good at the the other stuff that I will rank them high

Just because someone is in the same tier does not mean I don’t think one isn’t better than the other

Tier Six Eh: I guess you could plug them in as the starter but it’s probably due to lack of depth on the roster. Very unlikely to be a starter next year

Nic Claxton, Hassan Whiteside, Mason Plumlee, Isaiah Stewart, Alpren Sengun, Thomas Bryant

Five Starters: Definitely starting level talent but below average when compared to other starters more of a role player

Mitchell Robinson, Jakob Poetl, Ivica Zubac, Chet Holmgren, Wendell Carter Jr

Tier Four Good: Pretty Good level centers but not moving the needle, good to have but replaceable

Christian Wood, Nikola Vuecivic, Brook Lopez, Jaren Jackson Jr, Evan Mobley, Jusuf Nurkic, Jonas Valunchunas, Kristaps Porzingis, Myles Turner

Tier Three Great: Not quite the one or two guy pieces but someone is very integral to a team and is a lock for starter

Draymond Green, Robert Williams, Bam Adebeyo, Deandre Ayton, Clint Capela, Jarrett Allen, Domantas Sabonis

Tier Two Amazing: Description: Guys that can be the number two on a championship team

Anthony Davis, Pascal Siakam, Rudy Gobert, Karl Anthony Towns

Tier One Elite: Description: Guys you build your franchise around can lead a team to a championship

Joel Embiid, Nikola Jokic


[Windhorst] Danny Ainge has moved the game on winning deals… What he got for Gobert, everybody in the league is b*tching about, like, ‘Can you believe it?’ I’ve talked to 10 different people who’ve b*tched to me about that trade.

>In my house yesterday, I moved my wife’s oatmeal to a different cabinet. And she sends me a text, I wasn’t there, she goes ‘where’s my oatmeal…?’

> I go, oh it’s in such-and-such cabinet.
> She just texted me back ‘a very strange decision, very strange.’

>Danny Ainge has moved the game on winning deals… What he got for Gobert, everybody in the league is bitching about, like, ‘Can you believe it? How could they possibly do that?’ I’ve talked to 10 different people who’ve bitched to me about that trade.


Comparing the Careers of Donovan Mitchell and Carmelo Anthony

Just for fun, I wanted to see how the careers of Mitchell and Melo compared at the time of trade to the Knicks :

Carmelo- Age 27 season

Mitchell- Age 26 season

Carmelo- 3 all stars

Mitchell- 3 all stars

Carmelo- 4 all NBA teams

Mitchell- 0 all NBA teams

Carmelo- 1 conference finals appearance

Mitchell- 0 conference finals appearances

Carmelo- 2 playoff series wins

Mitchell- 2 playoff series wins

Carmelo- 24.8/6/3.1 career average on 45.9/31/80 splits

Mitchell- 23.9/4/4.5 career average on 44/36/83 splits

Carmelo- 24/7/3 playoff average on 42/34/82 splits, 16-30 record in playoffs

Mitchell- 28/4.9/4.7 playoff average on 42/37/86.5 splits, 17-22 record in playoffs

Different eras, different positions, Mitchell with much better playoff splits , but still.


What is the most influential moment in NBA history?

What play, trade, draft pick, or off-court incident changed the trajectory of the NBA *as a whole* the most?

My lean is the coin flip for Kareem. The back to back drafting of Bird and Magic is a big one as well, as they saved the league’s image.

On the court I lean towards the acts of Donaghy. Undermining confidence in officials and exposing real corruption in the officials ranks is a serious issue.

An actual play is tough. Even more iconic plays mostly affect individual legacies and franchise fortunes. I’m having some difficulty thinking of a single play that affected the league as a whole. Maybe the Malice and the Palace due to major suspensions of important players, but it is technically off the court.



Mid-Season Tournament Proposal: Good or bad?

I was with everyone when the idea of a “mid-season tournament” was first introduced. It sounded ridiculous. Why would fans care who wins the “Mid-Season Cup” when it has never been established? Why would star players care about $1M or extra draft picks?

That’s when I came up with an idea that would incentivize players, franchises and fans to care about the tournament:

Teams play 36 games from October-December.

These 36 games are **solely** to determine midseason tournament seeding in each conference. Single-elimination midseason tournament is played around Christmas/New Year’s.

Top 24 teams make the tournament. Top 8 teams get a first round bye .

The 6 teams that miss the tournament start January with a 0-18 record. The 8 teams that lose in round 1 start 3-15. The 8 teams that lose in round 2 start 6-12. The 4 teams that lose in round 3 start 9-9. The 2 teams that lose in final four start 12-6. Finally, the midseason championship loser starts 15-3, midseason champion starts 18-0.

This means after the midseason tournament, the standings will be reset and look like this in each conference:

1. 18-0 or 15-3
2. 12-6
3. 9-9
4. 9-9
5. 6-12
6. 6-12
7. 6-12
8. 6-12
9. 3-15
10. 3-15
11. 3-15
12. 3-15
13. 0-18
14. 0-18
15. 0-18

36 additional games are played in January-April to determine final 54-game record for each team. The first two-way tiebreaker can also be “whoever advanced further in midseason tournament.”

If the league wants to throw in $1M for each winning player, an extra draft pick, or an obscure “midseason trophy” and midseason tournament MVP, so be it. But this proposal IMO at least incentivizes teams to care in October-December. A contending team is going to fight for a top 4 spot in their conference to ensure they don’t end up one bad game away from 3-15, worse teams will fight to avoid 0-18 with a decent shot at 6-12, and with records being only 54 games, three additional wins will be significant to the final standings.

Also, less overall games played.


[The Athletic / Seth Partnow] Top 125 players for 2022-23

Seth Partnow is out with his annual NBA tiers:






Here are the top 3 tiers :

* **Tier 1A**: Giannis, Durant, Jokic, Curry

* **Tier 1B**: Embiid, Doncic

* **Tier 1C**: Kawhi, Lebron

* **Tier 2A**: Tatum, Butler

* **Tier 2B**: Davis, Morant, Harden, Trae

* **Tier 2C**: Paul, Lillard, Booker, George, Gobert

* **Tier 3A**: Bam, Brown, Jrue, Middleton, Kyrie

* **Tier 3B**: Beal, DeRozan, Mitchell, Draymond, Murray, Siakam, Shai, LaVine

* **Tier 3C**: Edwards, Simmons, McCollum, JJJ, Towns, Klay, LaMelo, Zion

Here’s Partnow’s methodology:

> To slot players into those tiers, I start, but don’t end with metrics, as I’m trying to identify their impact towards winning for a championship. Some of the major factors considered:
> * I weigh playoff viability and success highly. While regular-season floor-raising matters, lifting a team’s ceiling matters even more.
> * As such, I try to envision that player in the role he would likely play for a contending team. This does lead to some tension when deciding between a top role player and a more middling offensive hub.
> * I consider the whole of a player’s recent career, not just last season. This serves to eliminate, or at least reduce, wild year-to-year swings in player tiering due to factors often outside of a player’s control — changes in role/situation; a period playing through a nagging injury or simply production altered by a lengthy slump or hot streak. Evaluating anyone “in a vacuum” is incredibly difficult, because context plays a large role in performance even for the very top players, but I do my best to smooth that out.
> * Especially for players with long track records, I tend to give the benefit of the doubt for a single season that goes completely off the rails. Yes, this strongly influences where I slotted Kevin Durant.
> * Health is only a factor in cases when a player might be permanently diminished by an injury or is so prone to getting hurt that a team can’t count on them for more than 55 or 60 games a season.
> * I do my best to ignore salary; being overpaid doesn’t make someone a worse player, just a worse trade/cap asset. And I’m tiering players, not ranking assets.
> * Rising second-year players get a small bump in terms of projected improvement from last year, but everyone else is largely “come as you are,” though I try to be aware of signs that a player is on the verge of falling off the steep end of the late-career aging curve.
> * As a final tiebreaker, to reiterate: when in doubt, push them down. While occasionally a team will underestimate the talent on its roster, it is far more common to elide the difference between an All-Star and a superstar. The numerical ranking gap between, just as an example, Devin Booker and Luka Doncic might be around 10 slots, but the difference in impact, especially in the playoffs, is enormous across even small differences at the top of the pyramid.